In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined again by Jade Piros De Carvalho and Sean Gonsalves for a conversation about Internet access, digital equity, and how we organize society.

They begin with an article by Stefan Schüller that compares the United States, Switzerland, and Germany and tries to draw lessons about how networks are built and governed. The discussion looks at how you can “do it way wrong” in different ways, from privatizing everything to gold plating systems, and what those choices mean for competition and outcomes.  

From there, the conversation turns to a central question: how do you go back from where we are now in the United States? Working within a privatized model, they explore whether it is possible to move toward something different, and what it would take to create more competition and better results for communities.

They also talk about digital equity, including how training and local investment can change people’s lives and why those investments matter. Sean highlights the benefits of these investments in his latest story on Belinda Parker-Mendoza from San Antonio. You can find that story on our main page here. 

Along the way, they reflect on the role of federal and state policy, the limits of simply “removing barriers to competition,” and the challenges of solving problems in places with existing infrastructure.

The episode also introduces a new recurring segment, “What the Tech!?!,” and closes with a look ahead to our first Unbuffered live show on April 28th at 2:00 PM ET. For more information, check out our story here.

This show is 48 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed. 

You can also check out the video version via YouTube.

Transcript below.

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Thanks to Riverside for the music. The song is Caveman and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

In this urgent episode of the podcast, Chris is joined by Angela Siefer and Amy Huffman of the National Digital Inclusion Alliance (NDIA) to unpack a stunning announcement: President Trump has declared the Digital Equity Act “unconstitutional” and vowed to cancel it.

Angela and Amy explain what the Digital Equity Act really does, who it serves, and why this sudden political attack puts millions of Americans—and the country’s digital future—at risk.

They offer insights into what’s still unclear, how local organizations are reacting, and what’s at stake if this critical program is dismantled.

NDIA's response to President Trump's statement can be found here.

This show is 33 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

Listen to other episodes or view all episodes in our index. See other podcasts from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

Catch the latest episode of the Connect This! Show, with co-hosts Christopher Mitchell (ILSR) and Travis Carter (USI Fiber) joined by regular guests Kim McKinley (TAK Communications) and Doug Dawson (CCG Consulting) to talk about all the things we expect to see in across the broadband landscape in 2025.

Join us live for the next episode on January 24th at 2pm ET, or listen afterwards wherever you get your podcasts.

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